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Keep the in-game experience vanilla as much as possible

Put up by SPECTRUM

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

I joined this server because it was advertised as "no changes". Soon I discovered that auctions never expire... and so it begins. :( Even if there is a change suggestion here that (let's say) 150 of 200 support, it is possible that the change (and all of them) discourage new players from joining in the first place. So 150 are for, 50 are against, and another 200 avoid the server because of it. All other servers out there are either PvP or customized some way. In general, I support tweaks that don't have an impact on gameplay (also the economy). I like that there's some info on the website about characters, exploration, quests. Example of a bad change: Add NPCs to the game that allow you to enable hardcore play and auto-delete dead characters. Example of a good change: Add a pre-60 death counter column to the player character database table and as long as it is 0, your character displays as "Hardcore" on the website (and could receive something financially and practically useless in game that would prove the hardcore status, like a vanity pet or special mount, assuming you possess the riding skill and pay 1000g :p). All characters start out as hardcore, but one death before 60 and you become softcore.

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Meeting Stones as summoning stones

Put up by DEATHSPAWN

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Sorry if this is mentioned before, but since we are a Cross-Faction server, it would be wise to get the Dungeon Meeting stones as Summoning stones. Not the most pure vanilla thing , i know, but a big QOL upgrade.

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Bring back bots

Put up by DUSGRA

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Bringing back the AI being a very low pop private server, the bots gave us the ability to complete content / dungeons. the bots / ai were optional. you could choose to use them or not. the bots / ai were also not superior to real players, meaning you still get the social aspect by filling in group with a 3rd or replacing them when real players are available. with the limitations set at the last patch, they werent viable to use to overfarm / exploit. you couldnt farm or do any dungeon with bots that was out of range of your lvl. they were very healthy for the server / economy to put more items on the auction house. it appears that the limitations set were fully functional and appropriate.

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Remove the 16 debuff cap

Put up by PSYCOW

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

In my opinion this limit is unfun and renders already weak specs even worse while making meta stronger and limited creativity in raids. Removing that limit would open more doors to off meta approaches for raids.

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Disable World Buffs in raids entirely

Put up by PSYCOW

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Currently the world buffs will be disabled 4 weeks after a raid opens. I think world buffs are a fun buff to use while leveling and dungeoning. But Blizzard themselves admitted that it created too much toxicity in vanilla, hence the creation of chronoboons. I still think world buffs trivializes the content and foster toxicity while raiding, and we would be better without them when raids open

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Paladin's Blessing Duration

Put up by GRACU

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Increase duration of basic paladin blessings to 10-15 minutes.

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Minimum length level cap

Put up by BEACHED

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

implement a minimum of 30 days at each level cap before it can be voted to move on to a new 10 levels

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horde paladin

Put up by PROKILLL

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

what about horde paladin

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Limitations for Dungeon bots

Put up by LONGSHOT

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Because of the low population on the server and difficulty in finding a group for a dungeon, I propose tying the bots to a "LFG System" where the use would be limited. 1. After joining the "LFG System" and having waited a reasonable amount of time, 1 or more players would be prompted to join or NOT with bots for that dungeon. 2. Level could be limited and dungeon appropriate or if you still had quests to finish in that dungeon. 3. The use of bots in dungeons would be limited to a certain number of times per day (ex. reset every 2 hours or more) to discourage farming. 4. There could also be a reward for using system (maybe class appropriate bonus). These are just a few ideas to keep the game fun and I believe the server grow...

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Horde and Ally shouldn't be in same guild on Barrens server

Put up by KUROB

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

If horde and ally in the same guild, which make no fun in pvp Guild will mentioned do not kill there teammate, then why we need to play on Barrens if no world pvp action.

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Increase Backpack Size

Put up by TWOUTERS88

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

As the title says, if you press the + on the main backpack it says you have to enable a authenticator to get 4 extra slots on the backpack. Since that's not linked to this, maybe we can have a gift code for extra options like these.

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Bots ONLY FOR lower brackets.

Put up by NIAR26

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

My suggestion is this: the bots added are a welcome addition tbf, but to remove the possible abuse that could come out of it and also protect the community we are slowly building, i suggest that the bots should only be put and eligible for low levels/ low brackets. Actual bracket and even the bracket before the actual one (meaning from level 40 to level 20) should not have bots. Bots should be an help for low and slow levellers to experience the content and dungeons they otherwise would not be able or be very problematic at least to enjoy. We are a small community, and we must protect the human aspect of playing together the content. But we must also give new players a chance to enjoy vanilla and levelling without having them feel left out or feel to rush content. In big population servers, they would have no problem finding other players of their level to quest and party together, but atm the problem is there. Next bracket (41-50) will have the bots upgraded till level 30, and so on. Honestly, bots till level 45 when we get to raiding phase, since there will be people still doing level 45-50 dungeons for some pre-bis.

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Are you for or against bots?

Put up by STOLLA

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

For those who don't know, we are getting bots soon. You will be able to add 3 of them to your dungeon group or have one follow you around in open world. They will supposedly act like real players. We haven't been able to vote for it, so we don't actually know what people on the server think about it. I have seen some people saying that they will quit the server if bots are implemented. I don't want people to leave because of this, both servers have just recently started to grow. So take this opportunity to vote, we need to know what people actually think before they are implemented. Vote "for" if you want bots, vote "against" if you don't want bots.

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Allow mages to learn cross faction portals

Put up by MALOCH

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Since the server is cross faction and population is pretty evenly split most groups are half horde and half alliance so a single mage can only provide a useful portal to half the people in the group. Adding the other factions portals to each of the portal trainers would be a nice feature. Add Portal: Org to the IF portal trainer Add Portal: UC to the SW portal trailer Add Portal: TB to the Darn portal trainer Add Portal: IF to the Org portal trainer Add Portal: SW to the UC portal trailer Add Portal: Darn to the TB portal trainer

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Add Human \ Undead Hunters ?

Put up by NIAR26

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Makes no sense that those two races don't have the hunter class.

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Battleground que button

Put up by SACHMO

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

I think since the server is so small at the moment that a battleground quick que button on the hot bar would be useful. This way you do not have to run to your Warsong Gulch pvp area to enter a battleground. Could be removed later in vanilla once server population is higher.

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Disable low levels being able to camp chests in high level zones

Put up by STOLLA

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

If you do /who you can sometimes see level 2s in Eastern Plaguelands. These are characters placed out in safe spots where they can camp chests. Then they profit off the high level materials looted from the chests. This is a very small server. It's unfair if a select few are able to profit off high level materials, ending up with several hundreds of gold above everyone else that stay farming at the appropriate levels. These select few will have an unfair advantage, for example being able to buy their mount at lvl 40 and 60 way before everyone else. The solution is to put a level cap on chests, that is adjusted to the zone that the chests are in. For example, putting a level 50 requirement on chests in Eastern Plaguelands. If possible, the profit that these characters have gained should also be reversed.

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Increased chance for rare bosses\minibosses in Dungeons

Put up by NIAR26

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

As the title says. There aren't too many people in the server atm, and making groups is not so easy as it would seem. So the chance of finding rare bosses in the dungeons is way too slim. Increasing it would benefit everyone without altering the balance, i think.

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Welcome Message when first signing on about the votes

Put up by ZESTYDZ

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Welcome Message when first signing on about the votes

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Debuff and buff limits.

Put up by FEELTHEPOWER

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Hello guys, I propose to completely remove the debuff and buff limits. Arguments For Removing Buff/Debuff Caps : - Historical context: The debuff andbuff caps were hardware and engine limitations of 2004, not intentional design choices. - Class equity: Allows Warlocks to cast all curses, Hunters to use Hunter's Mark, and Druids/Priests to use damage-over-time spells without griefing raid members. - Healing freedom: Prevents Resto Druids and Holy Priests from being penalized for using Healing over Time (HoT) spells like Rejuvenation or Renew, which otherwise eat up vital buff slots. - Quality of life: Eliminates the annoying need for "cancel aura" macros and stress over accidental spell overwrites. Removing it would increase build diversity and make the game more enjoyable by: - Allowing more class variety in raids - Letting players use their full ability toolkit - Reducing the need for complex debuff coordination - Making certain specs more viable without hurting overall game balance

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We really need a GUILD BANK! \o/

Put up by LUMINOUSTM

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above · takes effect from TBC

Hey everyone, Odin here! Guild Banks are something we really need in the game; and most of us believe it would be a greater addition to the game earlier than later. Especially since the game will eventually advance to Wrath of the Lich King, I believe it would be wise to utilize its functions early on, to minimize feature difficulties in the future. A Guild Bank would allow Guilds such as our <The Scarlet Crusade> to be able to place random BOEs, Consumables and Raw material in one tab, allowing new as well as older members to be able to take some out, to help not just in their leveling, but in their crafting as well. Its also great to be able to stockpile certain materials for Guild Artisans to utilize and in turn exchange for Potions, Elixirs and Consumables alike back inside, for us to distribute it accordingly to members that needs them for crafting or dungeons/raids. I see only positives with having a Guild Bank, however in TBC and Wrath; I believe it costed something like 9200 gold or something to max it out. So perhaps it would be a good idea to Nerf the price of upgrading the Guild bank from: - 100g to 50g for the first tab. 250g to 125g for the second tab and from 500g to 375g for the third tab. Then continue with the original prices at 1000, 2500 and 5000 for the 4-5-6th tabs. Because then we could plausibly with the help of the entire Guild, upgrade the Guild bank in Vanilla to 3 slots, and then as we go towards TBC and Wrath, we'd be able to upgrade it further, progressively speaking. Thoughts? <3 This also applies for raw materials such as Ore, Leather, Herbs and more.

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Hear me out, guys! (Optional Transmog) A-A-Ah! I see your mouse going towards "Against", keep reading first!

Put up by LUMINOUSTM

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

I know what you guys will say, “Its not what we want, its not Vanilla, we want everyone to look like we’re playing Vanilla”, etc. And I agree with you all, 100%. So hear me out, okay? Disconnect your Tiktok brain and keep reading! Some Private Servers have this thing called “Optional Transmogrification.” and that means that you get to pick whether you want yourself and/or everyone else to have their Transmog Enabled or Disabled. This means that if for example I have my transmog ENABLED, you guys who have it DISABLED, will see me as if i had it DISABLED as well. --NOTHING CHANGES-- for those of you who who wants the authentic Vanilla experience. It only means that for those who wants to look a certain way, can choose to do so --WITHOUT AFFECTING THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS-- I for example love Roleplaying and would love if my Mage could look like a Wizard on a whim for RP events that I will organize with the Guild and others who are interested. Instead of having to save the 50+ pieces in my already full Bank; for various sets, etc. We can solve this very easily. People who dont want Transmog, have no reason to reject this other than being sour. People who want this. Can get to play the game their way. Keep in mind; there are already Addons and MPQ mods that changes the Vanilla game’s models and more, etc. There are even some versions of Stonetavern that looks different than what it did back in 2004. ...Soooo some, if not most of you are already not playing the Authentic Vanilla experience, and/or choosing to not nitpick that because of selective biases. Neither of these options changes YOUR experience, so if you do reject my Suggestion, please @Odin on Discord and tell me why this would be a bad addition to the game? <3 At the end of the day, we are here to have fun together; so why do -you- stand in the way of fun? ;D -Odin

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Increase the drop chance for Tabard of the Scarlet Crusade.

Put up by NIAR26

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

As the title says. An increase of the drop chance for the Tabard off the Scarlet Initiatees.

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Level bracket should be 30-40-50-60!

Put up by LUMINOUSTM

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Hello guys. Odin here. I posted this on Discord before. But here we go. So Ive been talking with the Guild in regards to the next phase and in regards to the next Phase for Barrens, that is to say; when we are to supposedly go to level 29. My suggestion is that we instead go for level 30. Theres a few reasons for this, 1.) Twinks can do twink pvp at level 30, as they will be in the 30-39 bracket, but since its locked to level 30; they would just pvp with other 30s. In the next phase after that, people who are leveling would be in the leveling bracket for pvp 30-39; while the leveling 40s would be in the level 40 bracket and so on! Besides; right now theres not really any PVP going on within Battlegrounds or barely any Wpvp either anyway; since most dont know where to go to queue for WSG; and some die along the way anyway; so we feel that the OG Twink brackets are sorta pointless, as most of us just do PVE content at this point instead and most of us love it. 2.) Most of the gear from Dungeons such as SM Graveyard, which a lot of us are looking forward to; is gear level locked at level 30 on the ddot. This applies as a recurring theme all the way to level 60. I feel like, while I do love the brackets, i think they should be changed to 19-30-40-50-60. Simply because we are losing out on a lot of Items, skills and the like that would make these brackets a lot more fun. Take this phase for example. We missed out on Cat form for Druids. Blink and Blizzard for Mages, the Paladin hammer quest for them. These things would have all made this phase more enjoyable and allowed for more community support. Some of you might say to “look forward to the next phase to equip an item or to learn a skill, etc.” But let me ask you guys. Is it fun to have seven items in your bank, that you can’t equip until the following phase, just to have them replaced by a green item 3 levels later in the same phase? The answer is no. It feels more lackluster if anything. It makes you not wanna do more dungeons because you know they won’t give you or your guildies an upgrade. It’s something to think about you guys! So VOTE FOR THE LEVEL 30 40 50 60 BRACKETS TODAY! \o/

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Auction time

Put up by CODOLOCO

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Since the population is low, the auctionhouse feels kinda empty. Thats why i recommend to increase putting up the auction time from 24h to 1 week. that way the auctionhouse will become much more filled.

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Barber Shop Only

Put up by NIAR26

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

No Full appearance Change. Just the barber shop for hair/Beats and colour.

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Taunt for Retro Paladin

Put up by NIAR26

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Just to make them atleast semi-viable for raids and dungeons.

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Adjusting level brackets

Put up by DENIED

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Change the brackets to every 10 levels (20-30-40-50-60) instead of the 9th. And do the next bracket soon. We're already seeing population diminish due to sheer boredom. This allows for big jumps in talents and skills while opening up additional content in the world to farm. There isn't a high enough population to worry about BG brackets currently and even if there were... allows there to be a 20-29 bracket and a level 30 only bracket for those trying to push. Can always be adjust back the next bracket but I don't see the problem in it. Even more so we're on older patches so you have to physically que for BG's at the portal which nobody is doing or will do. Even with the implementation of battlemaster's, I would be there still wouldn't be enough for BG's or they would be minimal. Open world farming and dungeon grouping seems to be the only content available right now. Please vote in support of this to get more attention to it.

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Bots

Put up by EPHRAIM

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

I propose we allow the options of having appropriately geared bots that we can recruit for running dungeons in instances where we cannot find a group.

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Launch date of Project Barrens

Put up by GEGGAMOJA

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Hi! I would suggest to pick a launch date for Project Barrens after the EU summer holidays. But before Blizzcon 2026, sep 12-13. So far my experience on Elwynn has been great. Stable and good community. Hope it keeps growing. You're doing a great job! //Gegga

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adding character appearance/race/name change options in the future?

Put up by NONOYES

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Making these options available like once per year or as a server event reward can be pretty cool.

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Party's item quest sharing

Put up by ALIZIA

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

I know it's not there in vanilla, but it makes the game totally unplayable for group, which is quite the opposite of the spirit. Shared quest item (everyone can loot the same quest item) encourage people to play together instead of solo.

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Consider minor tweaks to underperforming classes, talents and specs.

Put up by ANGRYGOOSE

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Nothing crazy, just shoring up classes/talents/specs (Ret/Feral/Boomie ect ect ect).

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Make the Talisman of Binding Shard a part of the loot table

Put up by SUPRACHIASMA

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Its WoW Vanilla History. Maybe give it like a .001 drop chance so its super duper legendary

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Hardcore and SSF

Put up by MATTEO

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Add a optional hardcore and ssf option. Would be a cool new challange when you are just raid logging later in the timeline.

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Allow purchasing legacy mounts until Phase II

Put up by MALOCH

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

On a server that progresses through patches the legacy unarmored epic mounts can be purchased up until patch 1.4 To recreate this with stonetavern timeline these mounts could be made available on the vendors until Phase II

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Consider exploring Vanilla Plus on the server

Put up by ALLWYND

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

I think that having small, but meaningful changes to the game can go a long way. 1.Chat between Horde and Alliance as well as ability for them to group up together for PvE content. Another thing can be an Auction House that is the same between Horde, Alliance and Goblin cities. These are things that can be a fix for the small population of the server, others like Turtle WoW did it in their hay day and it helped a lot to put the server on the map. 2.Small changes to talent trees to make other builds more attractive, but without going too far and adding new talents or spells/abilities to the game, just boosting some stats in talent trees that aren't used, like Arcane Mage, Survival Hunter, etc. I think such a small change will be very beneficial in the long term to allow people to have more diverse and different builds and not everyone using just one build and one set of gear. The changes have to be very subtle, but very meaningful. For example if a talent increases damage by 5% if 5 points are invested, the change should not got further than 10% at 5 points invested to make things more balanced and not too grandiose. 3.Remaining a Vanilla server forever and not going for future expansions like TBC or WoTLK. I think that servers who go this route eventually lose their population and die out. The appeal of a server is that it is based on one expansion and one expansion alone, this gathers like-minded players together and I think should remain this way. The server being Vanilla, PvE and x1 XP rate already makes is very appealing. I see it as very simple and clean experience, from this point on it needs to attract more people, but without official promotion, it needs to have the right set of features that will make players want to play and they should be the ones to post about it online and share how much fun they're having and from there other people can learn about it, get curious and join in. XP rate should always remain x1, PvE should always be the default and as long as those things don't change, more people will be interested in playing here, I think that there are a lot of servers who have x2 or x3 XP rate and it detracts many people from playing there, because they feel the rate at which they gain XP is too fast.

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Instant mail for all

Put up by RETIREDLANDLORD

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

This would be a huge quality of life improvement

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Instant mail

Put up by GEEZY

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Instant mail please! At least maybe between accounts only but my opinion should be realm wide. There is no downside to it and later expansions made it embedded into the game.

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Revisit Shaman/Paladin grouping

Put up by MALOCH

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Paladin is a very popular class right now and it makes it almost impossible for shaman to find a group. There are a few options: 1. Just ignore it. Vanilla has been easy mode for decades at this point, shaman and paladin buffs stacking in leveling dungeons really doesn't matter. If the plan is to go back to split factions for raiding then there is not raiding implications. 2. Add code to make shaman totems not work for anyone with an active paladin blessing. This should be the easiest fix and allow the player to choose if they want to use blessing or totems but dispelling any paladin buffs cast on themselves. 3. Add code to make specific buffs not stack, I think this is how a lot of other servers have handled it. Wisdom/Mana Spring don't stack and might/strength of earth/grace of air don't stack. This is a more complete solution but would require more coding.

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AH Changes for low population

Put up by MALOCH

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Please remove the AH deposit and set the AH duration multiplier to 7x. This will make it more attractive to list items on the AH because there is no gold lost if the item doesn't sell and allowing items to stay on the AH for 7d instead of 1d gives it more time for players to see it. I have seen this implemented on other private servers and it works well. I think these are the relevant mangosd.conf settings: Rate.Auction.Time = 7 Rate.Auction.Deposit = 0

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Adjusted Rest Talent costs.

Put up by SUPRACHIASMA

Concerns the whole house · decided by anyone at level 10 or above

Reducing or capping, or even eliminating the cost to Reset Talents. If this is a small community game, being able to swap into other talents without creating a gold-sink will keep end game content open to flexibility. When I played Vanilla, I had to level 2 or more characters of the same class to avoid having to spend hundreds of gold just to swap roles